10: The Dungeons of Torgar
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| Pending (Not Errata) |
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| (er) | Many: | All occurrences of "<rank> or more" with "<rank> or higher" |
| (er) | Many: | on to -> onto (REJECTED: 16, 80, 142, 219, 328 [opens on to]; 63 [hang on to]; 347 [hold on to]; 226, 242 [latch on to]) (FIXED: 20, 188, 326 [leaps onto]; 127 [step onto]; 152, 169 [yourself onto]; 145 [out onto]; 151 [back onto]; 177, 214 [over onto]; 205 [collapse onto]; 214 [bundle you onto]; 287 [you onto]; 296 [onto his stomach]; 309 [up onto]; 327 [helped onto]) |
| (er) | The Game Rules: | ENDURANCE points fall to zero -> ENDURANCE points fall to zero or below |
| (er) | The Story So Far, Equipment | Kai monastery -> Kai Monastery |
| (er) | The Story So Far: | gods -> Gods |
| (er) | The Game Rules: | ENDURANCE points fall to zero -> ENDURANCE points fall to zero or below |
| (er) | Disciplines: | mastery of this skill -> mastery this skill |
| (er) | Equipment: | Weaponmastery with a -> Weaponmastery with |
| (er) | Equipment: | bow -> Bow [so: x9] |
| (er) | Equipment: | arrow -> arrow [so: x7] |
| (er) | Equipment: | combat, therefore -> combat; therefore |
| (er) | Equipment: | [According to Equipment, the Elder Magi give Lone Wolf the Map; but according to Section 1, it is the Senate of Tahou.] [tp: I would support changing the Equipment section to agree with section 1. Saying that the Senate gave you the map is very specific to this book, whereas the Equipment sections of books 7, 8 and 9 all say "the Elder Magi give you a map", making the reappearance of this text in book 10 look like a simple oversight.] [jb: Yeah, I'd change the Equipment section to mention the Senate of Tahou. It doesn't make much sense that Lone Wolf gets equipment from the Elder Magi given that he's in Tahou.] [so: Elder Magi -> Senate of Tahou] |
| (er) | Rules for Combat: | This process of combat continues until ENDURANCE points of either the enemy or Lone Wolf are reduced to zero, ... If the enemy is dead, Lone Wolf proceeds but with his ENDURANCE points reduced. -> This process of combat continues until the ENDURANCE points of either the enemy or Lone Wolf are reduced to zero or below, ... If the enemy is dead, Lone Wolf proceeds but with his ENDURANCE points possibly reduced. |
| (er) | Rules for Combat: | at which point the one with the zero score is declared dead. -> at which point that combatant is declared dead. |
| (er) | Kai Wisdom: | The restoration of the Kai and the future of your homeland depends -> The restoration of the Kai and the future of your homeland depend |
| (er) | 6, 79, 142, 179, 200, 219, 306, 328: | Lone Wolf <cite> |
| (er) | 6, 179: | Drakkar fortress -> Drakkarim fortress [PAMoS] |
| (er) | 8, 22, 26, 33, 52, 59, 67, 155, 208, 213, 293, 329, 349: | bow -> Bow |
| (er) | 11, 130, 142, 210: | this weapon -> this Weapon |
| (er) | 14, 127, 301: | Adamas's -> Adamas' [cf. Corrections made in Book 23] |
| (er) | 20: | as if his body was -> as if his body were [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] [tp: I like subjunctives, so I agree. :) Likewise s.326.] [jb: Agreed.] |
| (er) | 22, 36 [x2], 70 [x2], 76, 96, 109, 119, 131 [x2], 147, 149, 164, 195, 272 [x2], 336, 349: | arrow -> Arrow |
| (er) | 22: | volatile mixture of phosphorous and oil -> volatile mixture of phosphorus and oil [dv] [so: Phosphorous is an adjective meaning 'containing trivalent phosphorus'.] |
| (er) | 44, 66: | Drakkar sniper -> Drakkarim sniper [PAMoS] |
| (er) | 47, 348: | Drakkar officer -> Drakkarim officer [PAMoS] |
| (er) | 60, 193: | hornet's nest -> hornets' nest [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | 63: | The hail of arrows and the sight of your black-clad form lurching towards them makes -> The hail of arrows and the sight of your black-clad form lurching towards them make |
| (er) | 80: | torches that splutter -> torches that sputter [ik/bk] |
| (er) | 106: | You cannot escape the worst -> You escape the worst [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] [tp: Seems like an appropriate change to me.] [jb: Agreed.] |
| (er) | 107: | Drakkar soldier -> Drakkarim soldier [PAMoS] |
| (er) | 109: | Drakkar leader's armour -> Drakkarim leader's armour [PAMoS] |
| (er) | 115: | the horse's hooves -> the horses' hooves [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | 115: | melee -> mêlée |
| (er) | 120: | zig-zags -> zigzags |
| (er) | 121: | bow -> Bow [so: 2nd occurrence only] |
| (er) | 124: | Here then are -> Here, then, are |
| (er) | 131: | your bow -> your Bow |
| (er) | 131: | quiver -> Quiver [so: maybe?] |
| (er) | 144: | cul-de-sacs -> culs-de-sac [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] [so: Also, <foreign>] |
| (er) | 153, 283, 319: | have a bow -> have a Bow |
| (er) | 155: | more that -> more than |
| (er) | 162: | Drakkar sword -> Drakkarim sword [PAMoS] |
| (er) | 163: | bowfire -> bow-fire |
| (er) | 177, 285: | 177 claims that the Black Key is a Backpack item. 285 (the page immediately after for me) implies in the third option that it's a "Special Item." [Reported here(approve sites).] [SO: 177: Backpack Item -> Special Item] [JB: Looks good to me.] |
| (er) | 179: | a group of knights appears from the largest tent and command you to halt -> and commands you to halt [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] [bk: "Commands you to halt" would imply that the group of knights are acting as one, and when I try to imagine a group of knights acting as one, all I can think of is the 3-headed knight in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"...] [tp: It's clearly inconsistent on whether "a group of knights" is construed as singular ("appears") or plural ("command"), but somehow "command" sounds better to me than "commands". In contrast, I could go either way on "appears", so I'd vote for changing it to "appear ... command".] [jb: The change suggested by tp is better.] |
| (er) | 181, 250: | forego -> forgo |
| (er) | 187: | If you win and the fight last -> If you win and the fight lasts [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | 192: | neuro-vascular -> neurovascular |
| (er) | 193: | Imposter! -> Impostor! |
| (er) | 209: | swop -> swap |
| (er) | 210: | A shower of icy-blue sparks explode -> A shower of icy-blue sparks explodes |
| (er) | 222: | seen you, he is -> seen you; he is [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | 265, 340: | toll of your possessions -> toll on your possessions [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | 271: | to their muscular bodies -> to his muscular body [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | 278: | Thank the Gods |
| (er) | 291: | Drakkar spy -> Drakkarim spy [PAMoS] |
| (er) | 298: | new-found -> newfound |
| (er) | 300: | enemy have -> enemy has |
| (er) | 326: | as though his body was -> as though his body were [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] [tp: I like subjunctives, so I agree. :) ] [jb: Agreed.] |
| (er) | 341: | zig-zag -> zigzags |
| (er) | 341: | A web of cracks zigzags across the two halves and a growing mound of rubble threatens -> A web of cracks zigzags across the two halves and a growing mound of rubble threaten |
| (er) | 344: | arrows -> Arrows |
| (er) | 347: | The shouts of the Drakkarim and the rain of their arrows unnerves -> The shouts of the Drakkarim and the rain of their arrows unnerve |
| (er) | 348: | Drakkar Assault-Captain -> Drakkarim Assault-captain [PAMoS] |
| (er) | Combat Rules Summary: | Kai Disciplines -> Magnakai Disciplines |
| (er) | Combat Rules Summary: | This is when ENDURANCE points of either character fall to 0. -> This is when ENDURANCE points of either character falls to 0 or below. |
| Fixed (Not Errata) | ||
| (ne) | Map: | [so: The label for Moggador Forest is partially missing. A fixed version of this image can be found here.] [SO: Committed the updated map to the SVN repository on Aug 11 2008.] |
| (ft) | Equipment: | [jc: How is the Lantern lighted?] [so: Added: The Lantern is designed to be self-lighting. You will not need a Tinderbox or any other means of creating a flame to light it.] |
| (ne) | Equipment: | anytime -> any time [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (ft) | Equipment: | [JC: In the Mongoose Publishing edition, the starting equipment in this book includes an Alether Potion, should it be footnoted?] [jb: Agreed.] |
| (ne) | Improved Disciplines: | Tutelaries lose only 2 points from your COMBAT SKILL -> Tutelaries lose only 2 points from their COMBAT SKILL [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (ne) | Improved Disciplines: | is not be able -> is not able [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (ne) | 1: | Firma -> Firina [tw: There is no Firma mentioned anywhere in the books, but Firina, the capital Firalond, looks like a natural place to catch a barge to Talon at.] |
| (ne) | 1: | Firma -> Firina |
| (ft) | 11, 210: | [owlfeather: "Do you lose a magic weapon here?"] [jb: Footnote: "Given that the author made it impossible to reach this section while possessing the Sommerswerd, it seems that you are intended to lose your Weapon, even if it may be a magical Weapon."?] [DED: There's a clear precedent from a "Monastery Mailbag" answer in the LW Club Newsletter, where someone asked "but the tentacles in Tekaro sewers dissolved the sommerswerd!?!" and Joe Dever said that yep, they did - but you would only lose a 'weaponlike special item' if you weren't already carrying a normal weapon.] [so: "Taking comments originally published in Lone Wolf Club Newsletter No.6 [link: <http://www.projectaon.org/en/ReadersHandbook/NewsletterExcerpts#lwcn6>] as a precedent, it seems reasonable to assume that you only lose a weaponlike Special Item here if you are not carrying at least one ordinary non-magical Weapon."] |
| (ne) | 88: | chums -> churns |
| (ft) | 106: | [SO: It is unclear whether a Platinum Amulet should protect you in this situation in lieu of the Discipline of Nexus.] |
| (ne) | 125: | less that twenty -> less than twenty |
| (ft) | 142: | [dv: Maybe it can be footnoted whether the Dagger of Vashna can be used here? And if so, is it destroyed? (Take that Acolytes of Vashna; try resurrecting your master now... ;))] [so: Taking comments originally published in Lone Wolf Club Newsletter No.6 [link: <http://www.projectaon.org/en/ReadersHandbook/NewsletterExcerpts#lwcn6>] as a precedent, it seems reasonable to assume that you only lose the Dagger of Vashna here if you are not carrying at least one ordinary non-magical Dagger."] [jb: I still think we should present the case for not destroying the DoV. Could we add to what you have "However, given the significance of the Dagger of Vashna, at your option, you may also reasonably choose to ignore the instruction to destroy the Dagger of Vashna even if that is the only Dagger you are carrying." ?] [so: Finalised to: "Whether this loss would cover the Dagger of Vashna is up to the reader's discretion. Taking comments originally published in Lone Wolf Club Newsletter No.6 as a precedent, it seems reasonable to assume that you would lose the Dagger of Vashna here if you are not carrying at least one ordinary non-magical Dagger. Alternatively, given the significance of the Dagger of Vashna, you may also reasonably choose to ignore the instruction to destroy the Dagger of Vashna even if that is the only Dagger you are carrying."] |
| (ft) | 203: | [dv: Should it be footnoted what the 0 is considered as (0 or 10)? It just seems to me that every other instance of picking 0 in such circumstances (END points' loss) is explained, either in the text itself, or in a footnote (and usually it's 10).] [jb: Can we verify this impression? Otherwise, I'm not sure we have much to say. It could use some guidance about if the Curing deduction from the random number would bring it below zero.] [so: Footnote: "On occasions such as this, it is usually the case that 0 = 10 (cf. <bookref series="lw" book="15tdc" section="sect147">Section 147 of <cite>The Darke Crusade</cite></bookref>). It also seems reasonable to assume that you will take a minumum of 1 point of damage even if the <ch.minus/>3 bonus for possessing Curing takes your score to 0 or below (i.e. if you pick 1, 2, or 3 from the <a idref="random">Random Number Table</a>)."] |
| (ne) | 229: | yow -> your |
| (ne) | 296: | (4 Gold Crowns -> (4 Gold Crowns) [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (ne) | Footnotes: | [so: The footnote to Section 304 uses the word 'forego'. On the footnotes page, it is spelled 'forgo'.] |
| (ne) | Errata: | (341) Alter zig-zag -> zigzags |
| Rejected | ||
| (er) | Improved Disciplines: | is not able -> will not be able [To match the correct wording in Book 8] [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | Improved Disciplines: | Primates with this skill have...and are able -> Primates with this skill will have...and be able [To match Book 8] [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | Magnakai Wisdom: | a wise choice enables any player to complete the quest -> a wise choice enables all players to complete the quest [to agree with the plural 'their' in the following clause] [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | Map: | [Jan Charvat: The label for Blackshroud is missing [March 22 2007]] [SO: There's not much we can do about this; there's no room on the map to insert the label, and the font would be noticeably different anyway.] |
| (er) | 1: | ancient quarter -> Ancient Quarter |
| (ft) | 71, 93, 228: | [so: "It is unclear whether you should turn to 168 if you possess a Jewelled Mace but not the Sommerswerd."] [jb: The Captives of Kaag sections 12 and 330 make it clear that it is effective against Helghasts. But does that mean that it is effective against all undead or just Helghasts?] [DED: Helghasts can only be harmed by "magical" weapons, and the Jewelled Mace is a magical weapon. Undeadness is irrelevant.] |
| (er) | 136: | bell; but -> bell, but [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (ft) | 168: | [jc: Should Jewelled Mace grant here +5 CS bonus?] [so: "It is unclear whether a Jewelled Mace should add 5 to your COMBAT SKILL for this combat (cf. Shadow on the Sand Section 253). You should certainly not double all ENDURANCE losses if you use the Jewelled Mace instead of the Sommerswerd."] [jb: The Captives of Kaag sections 12 and 330 make it clear that it is effective against Helghasts. But does that mean that it is effective against all undead or just Helghasts?] [DED: Helghasts can only be harmed by "magical" weapons, and the Jewelled Mace is a magical weapon. Undeadness is irrelevant.] |
| (er) | 252: | sun-sword -> Sun-sword |
| (er) | 327: | and the reins given -> and the reins are given [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] [tp: I see what the intent was ("<noun> are <verb>, and <noun> <verb-with-implied-are>"), but the dissimilar phrases and the length of the former make it sound awkward. I agree with the change.] [jb: Awkward, but OK as-is.] |
| (er) | 341: | the roar of falling stone -> the roar of falling stones [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | 350: | shock wave -> shockwave |