2: Fire on the Water
| Pending |
| Fixed | ||
| [All occurrences (or just some?) of on to -> onto] | [jb: not all occurrences require a fix] | |
| (er) | Map: | Kaltersee -> Kaltesee |
| (er) | Map: | Anskaven -> Anskavern |
| (er) | The Game Rules: | ENDURANCE points fall to zero -> ENDURANCE points fall to zero or below [so: This relates to all other LW/GS/FW books] |
| (er) | The Game Rules: | of your Action Chart. (i.e. if your pencil fell on 4 in the Random Number Table you would write in a COMBAT SKILL of 14.) -> of your Action Chart (i.e. if your pencil fell on 4 in the Random Number Table you would write in a COMBAT SKILL of 14). |
| (er) | The Game Rules: | of your Action Chart. (i.e. if your pencil fell on the number 6 on the Random Number Table you would have 26 ENDURANCE points.) -> of your Action Chart (i.e. if your pencil fell on the number 6 on the Random Number Table you would have 26 ENDURANCE points). |
| (er) | Equipment: | total when -> total, when |
| (er) | Rules for Combat: | This process of combat continues until ENDURANCE points of either the enemy or Lone Wolf are reduced to zero, ... If the enemy is dead, Lone Wolf proceeds but with his ENDURANCE points reduced. -> This process of combat continues until the ENDURANCE points of either the enemy or Lone Wolf are reduced to zero or below, ... If the enemy is dead, Lone Wolf proceeds but with his ENDURANCE points possibly reduced. |
| (er) | Equipment: | slung over the shoulder when not in combat otherwise in the hand. -> slung over the shoulder when not in combat, otherwise [carried (ne)] in the hand. |
| (er) | Rules for Combat: | at which point the one with the zero score is declared dead. -> at which point that combatant is declared dead. |
| (er) | 8, 63: | sandsnake -> sand snake [so: cf. 18dotd 81: grasssnake -> grass snake (er)] |
| (er) | 12: | agreeing a wager -> agreeing to a wager [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | 24: | Fox He -> Fox. He [Keith Sheldon] [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 28: | useful Items -> useful items |
| (er) | 37, 148: | East Bank Walk -> West Bank Walk [tp: Just a possibility; you are west of the River Dorn at this stage, though not on its banks. The street doesn't go to the river banks, either; section 323 strongly implies that it ends and becomes Lookout Street. I'm not sure what else the street name could be referring to. A bank of the financial kind?] [jb: I'm OK with fixing these, but we should gather a solid list of reasons that we're making these changes so they can go on the errata page.] |
| (er) | 38: | [ay: Shouldn't "spear" be capitalized, since it's referring to the Magic Spear taken from Section 134?] |
| (er) | 75: | Sir, requires -> Sir requires [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | 75, 142, 246: | white pass -> White Pass [jb: Fix it] |
| (er) | 76: | these Items -> these items |
| (er) | 79: | Kai lord -> Kai Lord [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 79: | Helghasts -> Helghast [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 79: | there is much preparation for -> there is much to prepare for [tp: As per section 123] |
| (er) | 82: | mob have -> mob has |
| (er) | 86, 194: | Westbank Wharf -> Eastbank Wharf [tp: This one's more certain: the geography clearly indicates that you are on the east bank of the River Dorn at this stage. While we're at it, should we standardise X Bank vs. Xbank?] [jb: I'm OK with fixing these, but we should gather a solid list of reasons that we're making these changes so they can go on the errata page.] |
| (er) | 91: | two Items -> two items |
| (er) | 91: | above Items -> above items |
| (er) | 113: | magician's guild -> Magicians' Guild [so: maybe?] |
| (er) | 122: | Kai lord -> Kai Lord [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 126: | jail -> gaol [jb: The series seems very inconsistent with with this British/American English conflict. The word "jail" is found roughly this many times in the following books: 01gstw:27, 02fotw:1, 05sots:8. The word "gaol": 01hh:1, 02smr:1, 03tcok:1, 03toz:1, 06tkot:1, 07cd:7, 08tjoh:2, 15tdc:10, 18dotd:9, 19wb:2. Should we standardize?] |
| (er) | 126: | their left wrist -> their left wrists |
| (er) | 139 [x2], 228: | Larnuma -> larnuma [PJ: Not an item name] |
| (er) | 150: | marshbird -> marsh-bird [so: or, marsh bird] |
| (er) | 163 [x2]: | said -> says [NM] |
| (er) | 168: | villagers, with -> villagers with [Dewi Morgan, August 2008] |
| (er) | 176: | Hammerdal mountains -> Hammerdal Mountains [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 181: | Useful Items -> useful items |
| (er) | 181: | above Items -> above items |
| (er) | 184: | Kai lord -> Kai Lord [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 187: | following Items -> following items |
| (er) | 195: | Durncrag mountains -> Durncrag Mountains [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 204: | magician's guild -> Magicians' Guild [so: maybe?] [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 217: | says in a cynical voice. -> says in a cynical voice: [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 228: | to left and right -> to the left and right [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | 242: | they are determined to destroy you before you reach Durenor -> [tp: Umm, you're already in Durenor... perhaps "reach Sommerlund" or "Holmgard"? Or "they were determined"? Or simply "the Darklords are bent on thwarting your quest", as per section 79?] [so: Let's change it to "the Darklords are bent on thwarting your quest".] |
| (er) | 243: | Kai lord -> Kai Lord [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 246, 263: | red pass -> Red Pass [jb: Fix it] |
| (er) | 261: | first option uses "person" (singular) and the second uses "their (plural) desperate pleas" [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | 266: | Quarterstaffs -> Quarterstaves [ik: as in 06tkot] |
| (er) | 266: | The price of his weapons are -> The price of his weapons is [so: Or, "The prices of his weapons are"] |
| (er) | 268: | Kai lord -> Kai Lord [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 283: | above Items -> above items |
| (er) | 289: | seal -> Seal [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | 299: | Hammerdal mountains -> Hammerdal Mountains [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 300: | Wanlo -> wanlo |
| (er) | 302: | whatever Items -> whatever items |
| (er) | 306: | his score reaches zero -> his score reaches zero or below |
| (er) | 306: | points to zero -> points to zero or below |
| (er) | 308: | each dice -> each die [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | 308: | 0's -> 0s [tp: I'm pretty sure we don't have a style rule on plurals of numbers, but I for one prefer the latter for "zeroes"] |
| (er) | 314: | at work when the -> at work and the [cf. 300 (Rejected) below] |
| (er) | 314: | tomorrow.' says Dorier -> tomorrow,' says Dorier [tp] |
| (er) | 321: | Kai lord -> Kai Lord [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 323: | to start to -> and start to [OF] [SO: This seems like a good fix] |
| (er) | 331: | these Items -> these items |
| (er) | 345: | jet black -> jet-black [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 347: | leap on -> leap onto |
| (er) | 350: | Durncrag mountains -> Durncrag Mountains [jb: fix it] |
| (er) | 350: | air, continually -> air continually [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (er) | Illustrations 1-20: | Add period to the end of each caption. |
| (er) | Combat Rules Summary: | This is when ENDURANCE points of either character fall to 0. -> This is when ENDURANCE points of either character falls to 0 or below. [so: This relates to all other LW/GS/FW books] |
| (er) | Combat Rules Summary: | Pick number from Random-> Pick a number from the Random |
| (er) | Combat Rules Summary: | Turn to Combat -> Turn to the Combat |
| (er) | Combat Rules Summary: | to random number -> to the random number |
| (er) | Combat Rules Summary: | when ENDURANCE -> when the ENDURANCE |
| (er) | Combat Rules Summary: | ignored, -> ignored; |
| Fixed (Not Errata) | ||
| (ne) | Title Page: | devestation -> devastation |
| (ne) | 4: | comer -> corner [IK] |
| (ne) | 73: | comer -> corner [Solenoid T] |
| (ne) | 117: | ride on, the roof -> ride on the roof [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (ft) | 142, 263: | [tp: the red and white passes must be collectable even if you don't have a backpack. To this end, they could be footnoted as being non-items, like the forged papers (s.327), or they could just be Special Items.] [jb: I lean toward footnoting them as Special Items. Thoughts?] [so: "The X Pass need not be marked on your Action Chart (and thus does not require a Backpack to carry them in)."] [jb: "Mark the Pass on you Action Chart as a Special Item."] |
| (ne) | 145: | Due to the loss of endurance AFTER TAKING THE POTION, it -> Due to the loss of 5 ENDURANCE AFTERWARDS, it [OF: You cannot reach here carrying a Potion of Laumspur.] [SO: How about: "...after consuming the Laumspur..." since the Laumspur you are carrying is carried as a "Meal of Laumspur" (cf. Section 103)] |
| (ft) | 160: | [jc: You should choose to demonstrate Weaponskill discipline only if you possess the appropriate weapon. ] [tp: a Kai Lord with Weaponskill might be able to put on a "dazzling" demonstration "of balance and speed", like a martial arts kata, with or without their favoured weapon.] [jb: The corresponding section begins with "Taking hold of your weapon, you demonstrate the Kai skills of balance and speed, as taught to you by your Kai masters." In this case, it doesn't seem to imply that you must have your Weaponskill weapon, but you do need a weapon.] [ded: it's not a combat, so there's no issue with the +2CS weaponskill bonus. I think we can assume that having weaponskill does give a kai lord "skills of speed and balance" no matter which weapon he has (just not a +2CS bonus) - there's precedent for this in The Chasm of Doom, when you get to use a bow if you have weaponskill.] [jb: I'm not sure that we can assume that the player has a weapon here. It seems non-intrusive enough to add "and are carrying a Weapon" or to footnote it.] [so: You must be carrying a Weapon to demonstrate your Kai Discipline of Weaponskill, though it need not be the Weapon you are specifically skilled in.] |
| (ne) | 181: | It should probably be footnoted here that buying a second backpack will not grant another 8 slots. [Dewi Morgan, August 2008] |
| (ne) | 182: | Turn to 177 -> Turn to 177. |
| (ne) | 224, 242: | realise -> realize |
| (ne) | 266: | Daggers 2 Gold Crown -> Daggers 2 Gold Crowns [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (ft) | 289: | [tp: it's entirely possible to get here without the Seal, e.g. 4 -> 342 -> 56 -> 143 -> 289. Perhaps a footnote, pointing this out and recommending that you simply turn to 186 if you do not have the Seal.] [Adam Sampson (August 29 2011): I've spotted another bug in "Fire on the Water" to add to your list of errata (although I'm not sure how best to fix it). You lose the Seal on page 194; if you then go through the sequence 86 215 4 342 56 127 143 289 (talk to the barman rather than confronting the fishermen), you get to "she notices the Seal on your finger" on 289 without having actually retrieved it.] [so: Agreed. Added the footnote: "To preserve continuity, if you no longer possess the Seal of Hammerdal, you leave the shop immediately. Turn to Section 186."] |
| (ne) | 295: | be trampled to by -> be trampled to death by [OF] [SO: Agreed] |
| (ne) | 303: | fitter -> litter [LeRoy McSwain, Jan 2007] |
| (ft) | 328: | Footnote: Pendant). -> Pendant. (LOT: Or maybe 'The Tracking' -> '(The Tracking' ) [jb: fix it] |
| (ft) | 332: | Should this Helghast be immune to Mindblast as all others are? [jb: A quick, rough search of the books indicates that this is the only time that Lone Wolf fights a Helghast which is not indicated to be immune to Mindblast. I'm tempted to correct this as errata. Thoughts?] |
| (ne) | 334: | Revert the replacement of "pot-holes" with "potholes" |
| (ft) | 337: | Newsletter #2: You lose all the items in your Backpack but without losing the Backpack itself. [jb: This is already footnoted, but a reference to which newsletter this clarification was found in would be best.] |
| (ne) | 337 [Footnote]: | Though you keep YOUR Backpack -> Though you keep THE Backpack [OF] [SO: The change is better] |
| (ne) | Footnotes: | (Section 94) Rememeber -> (Section 94) Remember [jb: fix it] |
| (ne) | Footnotes: | Remove the superfluous 'Section' before each section number on the list. |
| Rejected | |||
| (ft) | 5, 17: | Add a footnote mentioning the -2EP per round if you do not possess Mindshield [OF] [TW: You surprise the Helghast and wound it, so it's reasonable that it isn't able to focus on a mental attack in this particular battle.] | |
| (ft) | 37, 148: | [It might be nice to have a footnote here that addresses whether or not you may use your Hunting discipline here for the meal.] [so: Lone Wolf Club Newsletter Summer Special 1985 states: "You can bypass eating a Meal during a journey by vehicle if you have Hunting. We assume that the coach must stop at some time to allow for 'calls of nature', if nothing else!" However, the coach is travelling through the Wildlands, where the basic Kai Discipline of Hunting may not be used in lieu of a Meal.] | |
| (er) | 40: | He was killed by Helghast. -> He was killed by a Helghast. (Or 'He was killed by Helghasts.') [LOT] [jb: Surprisingly, "Helghast" is also the plural form of the word, therefore this is correct (cf. Section 311 of this book). The only occurrence of "Helghasts" in all of the books is in Section 79 of this book.] | |
| (er) | 82, 179: | hay-wain -> haywain | |
| (er) | 106: | The Helghast should have lower stats. [OF] [SO: Altering the stats of creatures is not part of the scope of Project Aon.] | |
| (er) | 182: | Suggest - 'or you can return to 231 and choose what to do next.' [OF] [SO: Other Disciplines can "hurt" or "hinder" a player. Suggest Rejected] | |
| (er) | 186: | notice board -> notice-board [jb: Hmm. Doesn't seem necessary.] | |
| (er) | 220: | Section 33: Thugs have a tattoo on the left wrist. Illustration: Tattoo on right wrist. Section 220: Tattoo on left wrist. Therefore, left -> right [as per Mongoose edition] | |
| (er) | 252: | You are "hurt" for possessing Tracking [OF] [SO: I don't see anything needs to be changed.] | |
| (er) | 284: | [Krafen [18-04-2010]: On page 284 of Fire on the Water, in the last paragraph, a sentence reads "As you slowly drift off to sleep, you begin a dream about the Sommerswerd." I am not sure how it was worded in the original book, but I think it should be "you begin to dream..."] [so: The original wording is "...you begin a dream..." This seems OK to me. It is a slightly unusual phrase, but not incorrect.] [jb: It's true that it's an odd way to say it, and I kinda like it. In any case, as Simon mentioned, it's not really incorrect or overly burdensome for the reader, so we should leave it alone.] | |
| (er) | 300: | at work AND the -> at work when the [OF] [SO: I'd prefer: 314: at work WHEN the -> at work and the] | |
| (ft) | 320: | [OF: Can the player take the pack as a Backpack if they have lost the one they started with?] [SO: By the tone of the section, I'd say no.] | |
| (er) | 333: | left wrist -> right wrist | |
| (er) | 344: | 10% chance of instant death if you possess Sixth Sense; 0% chance if you don't. [OF] [SO: That's the chance a player has to take!] | |
| (er) | 350: | sun-sword -> Sun-sword [jb: leave as-is (Manual of Style) | |
| (er) | Illustration 20 (Caption): | sun-sword -> Sun-sword [so: caption] [jb: leave as-is] | |